waton....the four corners of the earth are the four seasons......the sun in each of its quarters.
Hanged Man
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Flat earth vs round earth
by Jrjw inmy brother has been talking about the earth being flat and some big conspiracy going on to make people beieve otherwise.
what are people's thoughts on this?.
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Hanged Man
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Billions die because fruit was eaten. Please think about this.
by pleaseresearch incounties once at war with one another can forgive and move on.
even horrible murderers who killed the family members of someone can be forgiven for the act that they did.. but god, no no no.
no such thing can happen.
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Hanged Man
Even more fascinating for you PR when you grasp the patterns and see all of the stories in all the religious books as part of the cycle for yourself.....its the story of nature....and its amazing.
The new sun for the new cycle has arrived today.....Christ IS born today........the "new" sun for the new cycle of the year starts his journey up to the tropic of cancer......it's a long way away.....it's a mountain to climb.....however he is born in the sign of Capricorn as the sun is now at the tropic of Capricorn......that is why Capricorn is pictured as a goat.....and boy.....are goats good at climbing mountains......so go up you bald headed sun.....go up and get your lions mane.....your golden rays.....as you gain strength and head up to your most high point.......the acme......the summer solstice.......the king will be in his counting house (cancer) counting out his money (his golden rays)....the queen (moon) is in the garden/paradise/summer....eating bread and honey (Sign of Virgo and constellation of Praesepe)............that poem is about the summer....or in the daily cycle....dawn and midday.......the coming of light as the pie breaks open.....The four and twenty blackbirds are the 24 hours of the day....or the 24 "elders" in revelations.
All hail the saviour of the earth!,,,,,,the sun child is born who will take away the sin/darkness/winter away from the world......the one who gives his life for us.......and asks for nothing in return.
The light of the world has returned!......Merry Christmas PR.
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Billions die because fruit was eaten. Please think about this.
by pleaseresearch incounties once at war with one another can forgive and move on.
even horrible murderers who killed the family members of someone can be forgiven for the act that they did.. but god, no no no.
no such thing can happen.
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Hanged Man
Cain and Abel are the two equinoxes.....Abel is the spring equinox....the lamb/ram of Aries....that starts off the 6 months of light.....and growth.....paradise.
Cain is Libra the autumnal equinox that starts off the 6 months of darkness/death and destruction........hell.....the inverno/inferno......which means winter......the infernal regions.......the land of nod where the earth goes to sleep for 6 months.
https://www.reddit.com/r/italy/comments/1toh7t/hello_italy_is_there_explaination_to_why_the_word/
The two sacrifices are connected to the two equinoxes.....Abel brings the lamb.....(Aries) and gets gods favour.....6 months of light.
Cain brings vegetables and this connects with the dividing of all the harvested crops at the scales of Libra....the autumn.....and gets gods disfavour....he heads out to the land of darkness.......its all a story.....
The two thieves at each side of Jesus are the two equinoxes also.....one goes off into perdition (autumn equinox) and the other will be with Jesus/light/sun as he heads off into paradise....the 6 months of light.
In masonry this is called the royal arch....the "royal" arch because Jesus the sun/king rules these 6 months.
(The 6 months above are the 6 water containers in the water into wine story.....they are the 6 months in which the sun (Jesus) turns the water and grapes into wine at the end of the 6 months of growth.)
The two equinoxes are thieves in the sense that the autumnal equinox steals the light from the earth (the bad thief).....and the spring equinox steals the light back (the good thief)......as the two tommies do their thing every year....the twins.
Arguing against stories such as the fall of man is as useless as arguing about Santa.....both not real....but still important stories about the cycle of the year and the zodiac.
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Billions die because fruit was eaten. Please think about this.
by pleaseresearch incounties once at war with one another can forgive and move on.
even horrible murderers who killed the family members of someone can be forgiven for the act that they did.. but god, no no no.
no such thing can happen.
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Hanged Man
The Adam and Eve story comes from the cycle of the zodiac......In the sign of Libra to be exact...the start of the fall at the autumnal equinox........fall did I say?
In the sign of Libra you have three of the ancient classical planets involved....first though.....you have to know the seven planets of the ancients.....and you all do!.....you just don't know you do.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_planet
The seven planets are....the moon,mars,mercury,jupiter,venus,saturn and the sun.
Do you know why you know them?....they are the seven days of the week!
Monday is the moon day,Tuesday is Mardi in French...mars day,Wednesday is Mercredi...mercury day,Jeudi is jupiter day or Thor's day....(because Thor is jupiter is zeus....they are forces and concepts....not real gods),Vendredi is friday....venus day,Saturday is obviously saturn's day and sunday speaks for itself.....the seven planets.
However in the story of the autumnal equinox....three of the planets are involved....the sun (the good guy)....venus .....the goddess of love and apples,and saturn...the grim reaper....god of darkness.....satan.
The sun falls in Libra.....as does Adam....(it's the fall of sunny boy at the autumnal equinox every year as his reign ends)....Saturn climbs (exaltation/darkness once more takes over from the light) in Libra and Venus rules Libra.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libra_(astrology)
Look at the box on the right of the wiki page to see the characters.
So you have the sun,saturn and venus (e-venus....the autumnal equinox is the dusk.....the eve-ening of the year).
You can see Venus with the scales at Cardiff castle.....
Venus above showing the scales of Libra and the bull of Taurus....she rules both of these houses.Venus of Arles holding the apple of Hesperides.
Venus is also connected to the 5 pointed star........and lo and behold....cut inside an apple and you get the 5 pointed star......and the planet Venus also gives us a 5 pointed star in astronomy also.
https://www.uwgb.edu/dutchs/AstronNotes/Earth-Venus.htm
See if you can work out any other stories that come from the zodiac.....there are loads.
It's all stories about parts of the cycle.....
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The Most Unforgettable Character I Ever Met
by TerryWalstrom inthe most unforgettable man i ever met(by telly walstrom).
this man was a walking contradiction.
he violated every sensible rule of human interaction which might lead to success--especially as a salesman.unthinkable!preposterous!now here is what you must know.philip moh was ugly to look at.
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Hanged Man
Pure dead brilliant Telly.
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The soteriology of Revelation
by Doug Mason inmy draft chapters on the book of revelation is available at:.
http://www.jwstudies.com/the_book_of_revelation_s_nature_and_its_soteriology.pdf.
i am seriously seeking corrections, criticisms, and advice.. thanks,.
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Hanged Man
All of the symbolism can be explained astrologically CAL....it's all the zodiac.
It's the cycle of one of the ages of the "great year" coming to its end....and the birth of the new cycle/age. (we even have new age movements today)
There are 3 cycles...1/the daily cycle (which is like a small year.)
2/the yearly cycle containing the 12 months/four seasons.
And 3/ the great year caused by axial precession.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Precession#Axial_precession_(precession_of_the_equinoxes)
It's the third cycle that is coming to the end of one of its aeons/age/system of things that is being explained....the end of Pisces the two fish......It has to make way for the age of Aquarius the water bearer.....follow him into his house (houses are used in astrology).
Luke 22:10
It's called "precession" because unlike the daily and yearly cycles......the third cycle does not proceed like those ones......it moves backwards through the zodiac.
Taurus,Aries,Pisces and Aquarius.....rather than the usual cycle we are used to....Aquarius,Pisces,Aries and Taurus.
The bible tells us about the end of the age of Taurus in the story of Moses.
While he is up the mountain getting the new laws for the new age.....the people are clinging on to the old age of Taurus (those bitter clingers)....they were down and partying with the golden calf.....(the golden calf is the age of Taurus).....however Moses tells them....it is over.....the new age of Aries the ram/lamb/sheep has arrived....so blow the shofar horn and welcome the age of Aries....now all astrologers know that Aries is ruled by Mars (the god of war).....so its off to constant war Israelites....obey your God Mars......and also they are now concerned with Shepherd kings/soldiers....i.e David......because Aries is the ram/sheep/lamb after all.
Notice also....at the end of every age....there is a culling of those who cling to the old ways....so the Taurean worshippers are now killed off....they had their chance to change....but no!
After Aries (going backwards through the zodiac).....we next come to the sign of Pisces.....the two fish......and lo and behold...(what a coincidence guv'nor) we have Jesus connected to fishing and fish.....he even feeds people with two fish.......of course he does....he is the Piscean Messiah.
Look at pics of old places of worship....and again...you just happen to have two fish there.
All because ....in the big clock of precession.....it is connected to the sign of Pisces.
And for those who have ever asked the question.....why is the god of the old testament a warlord and the new testament god a beneficent/kindly god?
Here is the answer.....Aries is ruled by mars....(warlord).
Pisces is ruled by Jupiter....the Jovial god....and Jovial comes from Jupiter(Jew Peter)/Jove/Thor/Jehovah/Zeus (Je- Zeus).
https://wordsmith.org/words/jovial.html
However.....the next age after Pisces (again going backwards) is Aquarius....the water bearer.......so we should expect water symbolism in revelation....and sure enough it is being poured out,as waters of life,coming from the urn of Aquarius.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjxSCAalsBE
Christians today still have the fish of Pisces on the back of their cars......however in the centuries to come.....people will have a little water urn of Aquarius on the back of their hover cars : )
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Common Figure of Speech/Colloquialism?
by rstrats in1. the messiah said that three nights would be involved with his time in the "heart of the earth".. 2. there are some who believe that the crucifixion took place on the 6th day of the week with the resurrection taking place on the 1st day of the week.. 3. of those, there are some who believe that the "heart of the earth" is referring to the tomb.. 4. however, those two beliefs allow for only 2 nights to be involved.. 5. to account for the discrepancy, some of the above say that the messiah was using common figure of speech/colloquial language of the time, i.e., that it is was common to forecast or say that a day or a night would be involved with an event when no part of the day or no part of the night could occur.. 6. in order for someone to legitimately say that it was common, they would have to know of more that 1 example to make that assertion.. 6. for the purpose of this topic, i would like to ask if there are any 6th day of the week crucifixion advocates who think the messiah was employing common figure of speech/colloquial language of the period?.
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Hanged Man
All you need to understand.....is the cycle.
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Common Figure of Speech/Colloquialism?
by rstrats in1. the messiah said that three nights would be involved with his time in the "heart of the earth".. 2. there are some who believe that the crucifixion took place on the 6th day of the week with the resurrection taking place on the 1st day of the week.. 3. of those, there are some who believe that the "heart of the earth" is referring to the tomb.. 4. however, those two beliefs allow for only 2 nights to be involved.. 5. to account for the discrepancy, some of the above say that the messiah was using common figure of speech/colloquial language of the time, i.e., that it is was common to forecast or say that a day or a night would be involved with an event when no part of the day or no part of the night could occur.. 6. in order for someone to legitimately say that it was common, they would have to know of more that 1 example to make that assertion.. 6. for the purpose of this topic, i would like to ask if there are any 6th day of the week crucifixion advocates who think the messiah was employing common figure of speech/colloquial language of the period?.
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Hanged Man
Jesus is in the heart of the earth for 3 days due to the fact that the old sun (Jesus) dies at the winter solstice after being crucified on the cross of the year...and around 3 days later... the new sun starts its cycle in Capricorn......which is the Cardinal "earth" sign.
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What if the crucifixion never took place..
by Jayk ini googled it and pretty much my understanding is the same as what i imagine.
no one really knows, your guess is as good as the next.
interesting thought to consider imo..
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Hanged Man
Today is the day the crucifixion takes place.....the winter solstice.....the old sun has passed all four "stations" and is now dead at the darkest time of the year......However.....something wonderful is about to happen!....the new baby sun (Jesus) is about to be born as he starts his journey round the four cardinal points.....of course it would be the magi (astrologers) who came to visit the newborn light.....they were the sky watchers.....they were the ones who understood the mazzaroth......the constellations.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_symbol
Is it a coincidence that the ancient symbol for earth is the cross?.......no......the ancients knew about the four seasons.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_symbol
Although he will be present (parousia) at this time....he is too weak to kill off his foes of darkness/cold and death...he is born at the start of winter....the dark forces still have the upper hand.....he will have to go into exile for forty days from candlemass until he gains his strength to overcome them at the spring equinox....then satan will have to scarper until he has his day at the autumnal equinox....where the sun will be judged at the scales of justice (sign of libra.....you can still see the scales of libra at courthouses).....however the spring equinox is not the time for judgment......the spring equinox (happens in the sign of Aries) is the time for the lamb of Aries to take the sins/darkness/death of the world away....as he passes over the equator.
In the daily cycle........when the sun passes over the horizon.....all of the stars disappear or are "killed".......he kills his thousands every dawn.
When the sun passes down over the horizon at sunset (daily cycle of libra) he heads off into the underworld to be reborn at midnight...the winter solstice of the daily cycle.
Hannukah is the Jewish culture celebrating the run up to the winter solstice.......none of it is Satanic....it is merely celebrating the cycle of our glorious saviour and light bringer....the one who brings the dead to life......the sun.
The Romans called this time of year "Saturnalia".....why?
Because the winter solstice occurs in the sign of Capricorn......and all astrologers know......the sign of Capricorn is ruled by.....guess who?.......Saturn!....hence Saturnalia
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Saturn_(Astrology)
Saturn is the grim reaper (hence his connection to agriculture)......you will always see him with his scythe or sickle........he puts it in and reaps during winter as he kills off the weak....this is the symbology of Jesus in revelation....reaping the winter of the cycle of the age.
Notice old father time (Saturn) with his sickle.....pointing to midnight....because he rules the sign of Capricorn....which is the midnight of the year......now you should also be grasping why Satan is portrayed as a goat.....due to the sign of Capricorn....Saturn is Satan......the ruler of the darkness.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yule_Goat
Saturn is also Herrut (Herod) in Egyptian lore....the one who chases Jesus,Mary and Joseph into exile in Egypt.
http://www.egyptiangods.co.uk/herrut.htm
Notice in the link above,Herrut chases the mother Meh (Mary),Horus (Christ) and Seb...(Joseph).
They are all telling stories about the cycle of the year....and the light and the darkness.
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Greetings everyone! Newly signed up but not new to the site.
by GTSfromSY inmy (very fake) name is gabriel syme or gabe for short.
i have been lurking in the shadows for many years and i want to give all here a heartfelt thank you for all your indirect support.
this website, as well as youtube, and eventually reddit, were all key in me finally accepting the “truth” being not that at all.
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Hanged Man
Welcome Mr Jupiter!